tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2841348142033509263.post706812090551302007..comments2023-12-31T02:40:43.545-06:00Comments on The Norse Mythology Blog | norsemyth.org: Interview with Joris Boghtdrincker of Heidevolk, Part TwoDr. Karl E. H. Seigfriedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12175244816952769358noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2841348142033509263.post-5061143313109859292013-07-08T18:51:31.028-05:002013-07-08T18:51:31.028-05:00Okay, I see, that makes sense. So it's the sam...Okay, I see, that makes sense. So it's the same vow, but it's actually from the eight century rather than the ninth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2841348142033509263.post-59528120291823170192013-07-08T09:33:32.843-05:002013-07-08T09:33:32.843-05:00Dear Anonymous,
In the early 740s, Saint Boniface...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />In the early 740s, Saint Boniface (the same fellow who cut down Thor's Oak) led the Council of Lestines. This is where the renunciation formula was adopted. The Council decided that this text would be spoken by Saxon converts to Christianity, who were required to renounce their old gods. The text is sometimes called the <i>abjuration</i>, sometimes the <i>baptismal vow</i>. You can read more about it in "<a href="http://www.norsemyth.org/2010/06/clash-with-christianity-part-three.html" rel="nofollow">The Clash with Christianity, Part 3</a>."Dr. Karl E. H. Seigfriedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12175244816952769358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2841348142033509263.post-25543336959842559432013-07-08T03:11:30.222-05:002013-07-08T03:11:30.222-05:00According to Wikipedia (not the best source, of co...According to Wikipedia (not the best source, of course), the quote “Thunaer ende Uoden ende Saxnote ende alum them umholdum, the hira genotas sint” comes not from the Council of Lestines, but from a ninth-century <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Saxon_Baptismal_Vow" rel="nofollow">Old Saxon Baptismal Vow</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com